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==Changes==
===Create <nowiki>{{</nowiki>{{fake link|DLC infobox|Template:DLC infobox}}<nowiki>}}</nowiki> template===
The ''Super Mario'' DLC articles are missing a <code><nowiki>{{</nowiki>{{fake link|DLC infobox|Template:DLC infobox}}<nowiki>}}</nowiki></code> template. I was just wondering if there's a possibility to create the <code><nowiki>{{DLC infobox}}</nowiki></code> template. The following parameters are as follows:
*<code>name</code> - The name of the DLC (italics are optional).
*<code>image</code> - Image(s) of the topic.
*<code>game</code> - The game(s) the DLC applies to.
*<code>release</code> - The release date of DLC in all regions (use the <code>{{tem|release}}</code> template).
*<code>languages</code> - The languages the DLC is playable in (use the <code>{{tem|languages}}</code> template).
*<code>cost</code> - The cost date of DLC in all regions (use the <code>{{tem|release}}</code> template).
*<code>platforms</code> - The platforms that the DLC has been released on.
*<code>content</code> - A brief summary of the content in the DLC.
*<code>related</code> - Any subjects related to the DLC.
Once this proposal passes, the we'll be able to put the infobox on [[Mercedes-Benz x Mario Kart 8|Mercedes-Benz × ''Mario Kart 8'']], [[The Legend of Zelda x Mario Kart 8|''The Legend of Zelda'' × ''Mario Kart 8'']], [[Animal Crossing x Mario Kart 8|''Animal Crossing'' × ''Mario Kart 8'']], [[Donkey Kong Adventure]], the ''[[Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – Booster Course Pass]]'', [[The Tower of Doooom]], [[The Last Spark Hunter]], and [[Rayman in the Phantom Show]].
'''Proposer''': {{User|GuntherBayBeee}}<br>
'''Deadline''': May 18, 2024, 23:59 GMT
====Support====
#{{User|GuntherBayBeee}} Per proposal
#{{User|Scrooge200}} I've always found it strange that these don't already have an infobox. Considering DLC for ''Mario'' games is getting more common lately, it definitely has a use.
#{{User|Camwoodstock}} Honestly, we're surprised this hasn't been created sooner with the absolute ''deluge'' of DLC ''Mario Kart 8'' has received across literally multiple consoles, running the gambit from the Mercedes-Benz crossover to the Booster Course Pack. And if that wasn't enough, the Rabbids games' DLC campaigns show this isn't even just a Mario Kart 8-only thing. (We have a bit more to say, but we'll leave that to comments.)
#{{User|Nightwicked Bowser}} This was something I thought of a while back as well. Just not sure how "related" would work.
#{{User|Arend}} Per all.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} per all. better to have it now than to need it later down the line
#{{User|Jazama}} Per all
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} Wow, we don't have this? MAKE IT!
#{{User|Sparks}} I like the sound of this!
#{{User|BMfan08}} Sure. Per all.
====Oppose====
====Comments====
Depending on how you choose to define "DLC", we think you could even throw in a few other things as well. Admittedly, the [[:Category:Downloadable content|DLC category]] is a little muddied at the moment with... <small>mumble grumble...</small> smash redirects, so we couldn't get the best look at this hour, but from what we saw, you could even throw in those [[Coin Rush]] packs pretty easily. We think the only real exception is ''[[New Super Luigi U]]'', since that one technically did see a standalone release without the game it's DLC for, meaning we already use the game infobox for that one. {{User:Camwoodstock/sig}} 01:58, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:Then do you have any better ideas than create the <code><nowiki>{{DLC infobox}}</nowiki></code>? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 11:52, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
::...I don't think they were implying that a DLC infobox is a bad idea... at all. All they were saying (aside from complaining about the Smash FLC redirects) was that the Coin Rush DLC packs could implement a DLC infobox as well (which I'm unsure about, given that {{tem|NSMB2 pack infobox}} already exists), and that only ''New Super Luigi U'' doesn't need it since it's got a standalone physical release. {{User:Arend/sig}} 12:03, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:::How about we use {{tem|game infobox}} instead of <nowiki>{{DLC infobox}}</nowiki>? Would that be a better idea? {{User:GuntherBB/sig}} 22:44, May 14, 2024 (EDT)
::::You still misunderstand, no one in these comments is against the DLC infobox idea. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 03:04, May 15, 2024 (EDT)
I'm starting to feel that GuntherBayBee is posing these questions purely to drum up more engagement in his proposals. It's not exactly the same as [[Special:Diff/4161234|stating to think about voting for an option they already voted for from the beginning]] or [[Special:Diff/4166018|literally asking people that engaged in the comments what option they're voting for]], but in all cases, it was preceded by a lack of engagement in his proposal (although, in this case, it's more because this proposal is sandwiched inbetween several proposals with way more engagement than one could wish for). I would otherwise have no idea why he's trying to bargain different ideas when people are literally ''unanimously agreeing with his DLC infobox idea'' (with not a single opposing vote so far), unless he's ''really bad'' at reading. {{User:Arend/sig}} 10:38, May 15, 2024 (EDT)
:Yeah, same here. [[User:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)]] ([[User talk:SONIC123CDMANIA+&#38;K(B&#38;ATSA)|talk]]) 10:52, May 15, 2024 (EDT)
===Split the Super Mario universe and the Paper Mario universe===
===Split the Super Mario universe and the Paper Mario universe===
I think the articles about the Super Mario universe (characters, levels, worlds, etc.) should be split between the Super Mario uiverse and the Paper Mario universe. As those are 2 different universes. This is confirmed in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam for Nintendo 3DS. Also in Super Paper Mario, there is a wedding scence with Mario, Bowser & Peach in the Paper Mario universe. In the Super Mario universe there's a wedding scene in Super Mario Odyssey. Kamek and Bowser Jr. appear for the first time in the Paper Mario verse in Paper Mario: Sticker Star. In the Super Mario universe they appear earlier. Bowser Jr. in Super Mario Sunshine and Kamek in Yoshi's Island. For example there would be an article about Mario and a seperate article about Paper Mario from the Paper Mario series. This would be a pretty big, important change for this wiki, to be even better, more accurate. And I think that's what matters. To make the Super Mario wiki more organiced and easier to use for Mario Fans. Thanks!
I think the articles about the Super Mario universe (characters, levels, worlds, etc.) should be split between the Super Mario uiverse and the Paper Mario universe. As those are 2 different universes. This is confirmed in Mario & Luigi Paper Jam for Nintendo 3DS. Also in Super Paper Mario, there is a wedding scence with Mario, Bowser & Peach in the Paper Mario universe. In the Super Mario universe there's a wedding scene in Super Mario Odyssey. Kamek and Bowser Jr. appear for the first time in the Paper Mario verse in Paper Mario: Sticker Star. In the Super Mario universe they appear earlier. Bowser Jr. in Super Mario Sunshine and Kamek in Yoshi's Island. For example there would be an article about Mario and a seperate article about Paper Mario from the Paper Mario series. This would be a pretty big, important change for this wiki, to be even better, more accurate. And I think that's what matters. To make the Super Mario wiki more organiced and easier to use for Mario Fans. Thanks!
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#{{User|Ray Trace}} Per Hewer.
#{{User|Ray Trace}} Per Hewer.
#{{User|BMfan08}} Per all.
#{{User|BMfan08}} Per all.
#{{User|Definitely not Sascha}} Per all.


====Comments====
====Comments====
<big>To anyone who reads this message. Remember that you can still support my proposal until tomorrow. If you want the Mario and the Paper Mario universe split, seperate articles for that. Thank's to everyone who supports me!</big>
{{Unsigned|Big Super Mario Fan}}
The scene mentioning the paper Koopalings seems like it's foreshadowing ''Color Splash'', but other than that, there's little hard evidence. If we can compile quotes from interviews and other promotional materials, there '''might''' be something to work with, but I've more or less given up on this one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:00, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
The scene mentioning the paper Koopalings seems like it's foreshadowing ''Color Splash'', but other than that, there's little hard evidence. If we can compile quotes from interviews and other promotional materials, there '''might''' be something to work with, but I've more or less given up on this one. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] ([[User talk:LinkTheLefty|talk]]) 10:00, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:The games didn't really start acting like the ''Paper Mario'' games had their own continuity until ''Sticker Star'', but even then it was just some throwaway lines and a multitude of dialogue-based paper jokes (as opposed to the solely visual gag-based ones from before). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:41, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:The games didn't really start acting like the ''Paper Mario'' games had their own continuity until ''Sticker Star'', but even then it was just some throwaway lines and a multitude of dialogue-based paper jokes (as opposed to the solely visual gag-based ones from before). [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 11:41, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
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:While it does say "two universes collide", that still only matters for this one game and should not impact this wiki's organisation. I think that argument has been countered enough at this point. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 21:18, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:While it does say "two universes collide", that still only matters for this one game and should not impact this wiki's organisation. I think that argument has been countered enough at this point. {{User:Nightwicked Bowser/sig}} 21:18, May 12, 2024 (EDT)
:Again, [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]]. Even if Paper Jam did "confirm" that Paper Mario is in a separate universe, that doesn't retroactively override the portrayal in earlier (or later) games that are often made by completely different people. For a similar case, when games get remakes, we don't stop covering the original or treat the remake as the "true" version, we just cover both and note the differences. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 12:02, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
:Again, [[MarioWiki:Canonicity]]. Even if Paper Jam did "confirm" that Paper Mario is in a separate universe, that doesn't retroactively override the portrayal in earlier (or later) games that are often made by completely different people. For a similar case, when games get remakes, we don't stop covering the original or treat the remake as the "true" version, we just cover both and note the differences. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 12:02, May 13, 2024 (EDT)
<big>To anyone who reads this message. Remember that you can still support my proposal until tomorrow. If you want the Mario and the Paper Mario universe split, seperate articles for that. Thank's to everyone who supports me!</big>
{{Unsigned|Big Super Mario Fan}}
@Mariuigi Khed: [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/66#Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts|The live-action film characters are planned to be merged]], inconsistent differences in personality or amount of dialogue determining splits is a [[Hotel Mario|very]] [[Shitamachi Ninjō Gekijō|slippery]] [[The Super Mario Bros. Super Show!|slope]], and a minimum of two appearances is a very arbitrary metric that just invites further inconsistency. They're just different iterations of the same characters, being made of paper because everything in the game is made of paper is no more split-warranting than being made of [[Yoshi's Woolly World|yarn]] or [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/65#Decide how to handle the toy enemies from across the Mario vs. Donkey Kong series|plastic]]. {{User:Hewer/sig}} 05:49, May 19, 2024 (EDT)


===Consider ''The Super Mario Bros. Movie'' as an installment of the ''Super Mario'' series===
===Consider ''The Super Mario Bros. Movie'' as an installment of the ''Super Mario'' series===
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====Support====
====Support====
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} as proposer.
#{{User|EvieMaybe}} as proposer.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} Yeah, sure.
#{{User|SONIC123CDMANIA+&K(B&ATSA)}} Yeah, sure
#{{User|Big Super Mario Fan}} I think that's really a good idea.
#{{User|JanMisali}} Per proposal.
#{{User|JanMisali}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Yeah, I'm fine with this.
#{{User|Super Mario RPG}} Yeah, I'm fine with this.
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#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per proposal.
#{{User|ThePowerPlayer}} Per proposal.
#{{User|Yook Bab-imba}} This is something that has bothered me forever, so I agree wholeheartedly.
#{{User|Yook Bab-imba}} This is something that has bothered me forever, so I agree wholeheartedly.
<s>{{User|Big Super Mario Fan}} I think that's really a good idea.</s>


====Oppose====
====Oppose====
Hewer
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