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==Changes==
===Amend/Re-examine the [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_46#Changing_the_Super_Mario_Wiki_Logo.21|proposal to change Super Mario Wiki's logo]]===
''None at the moment.''
 
Just now, a motion has passed to change the Super Mario Wiki logo. The logo change was overwhelmingly supported with a final tally of 23-1. However, I believe there is still need for discussion, and thus I am calling for a localized reopening of the proposal.
 
I do NOT seek to repeal the decision to change the old logo (that's why "keep the old logo" is not an option). The motion has passed fairly, and overturning it at this point would be against proposal regulations. The change will stick. This is not a nullification, it is an expansion. I feel that the proposal has failed to examine ALL factors of this debate, and thus should not be considered closed until all relevant factors have been explored.
 
What I am specifically talking about is that, during discussions on the forum, an [http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38109.msg1901725#msg1901725 alternative logo] has been suggested. I've read the proposal, and this new suggestion was not considered while the vote was in progress. I therefore think the discussion is incomplete. For the proposal to cover ALL aspects of this debate, and to ensure that all information is evaluated, '''users should be made aware of the options they have, and then allowed to vote which logo they want to replace the old one with'''.
 
<gallery>
File:SuperMarioWikiLogo new.svg|Logo #1
File:SMW_NIWA_logo.png| Logo #2
</gallery>
 
Change is inevitable, but we have not yet adequately explored which direction we want to change in.
 
'''Proposer''': {{User|Gabumon}}<br>
'''Deadline''': February 8, 2017, 23:59 GMT<br>
 
====Switch to Logo #1====
#{{User|Owencrazyboy9}} I think it's best to stick with the proposed logo from before. To rephrase what Eldritchdraaks said in the previous proposal, the new logo symbolizes the Mushroom Kingdom, in a similar way that the wiki covers all things Mario-related, including Donkey Kong, Yoshi and Wario games, not just Mario's. The alternative logo just makes it look like we cover just material with Mario in it, not all things Mario-related. In all, I'm going to have to oppose the other design and go with this one.
#{{User|TheFlameChomp}} Per Owencrazyboy9.
#{{User|Eldritchdraaks}} Per Owencrazyboy9 and my previous proposal.
#{{User|Glowsquid}} - people following the twatter account seems to like this one, for what it's worth.
 
====Switch to Logo #2====
#{{User|Gabumon}} - The alternative logo is visually more interesting, as it provides a nice color contrast instead of just being uniformly red.
#{{User|Lord Bowser}} honestly the new logo looks visually uninteresting. I agree that the old logo was a bit of a mess, but this new logo is on the opposite end of the spectrum; too simple. logo #2 provides a good compromise in my opinion.
#{{User|DragonFreak}} - Per all plus the red text on red mushroom blends in too much.
 
====Comments====
If {{user|Porplemontage}} is willing to create [[Special:Preferences|more skins]] (themes), why not just have each theme have a different logo? I would go as far as creating a "night" theme (dark color scheme). --{{User:Wildgoosespeeder/sig}} 19:22, 1 February 2017 (EST)
:Ooh, I'd like that :) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 19:26, 1 February 2017 (EST)
::I think that sounds like a good idea. --{{User:TheFlameChomp/sig}} 19:27, 1 February 2017 (EST)
 
@Owencrazyboy9: Well, I would say that Mario is the champion of the Mushroom Kingdom, and thus something that represents him does, by extension, represent the Mushroom Kingdom. I don't really see the DK/Yoshi/Wario games point, because mushrooms are only tangentially related to those series and don't really adequately represent them. Bananas, garlic, and eggs are what first comes to my mind when I think of those. In fact, if you wanted to use something that's featured in all of these series, it should really be a coin. -- {{User|Gabumon}}
:I'm fairly certain that despite what you are saying, this still goes against rule #7: ''"No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old."'' Also, if you had an issue with this, you didn't even vote on the previous proposal nor did you leave any sort of comment. The new logo had full support by {{User|Porplemontage}} and when I made the proposal, he said to create the two options I did.--{{User:Eldritchdraaks/sig}} 19:35, 1 February 2017 (EST)
::Because I only learned of this proposal today. I would have loved to be part of the conversation before, but one week is a pretty narrow time window, and I just didn't see it in time. Also, I believe wholeheartedly that this is still within the scope of the rules, but I may be mistaken, and if I am I submit my proposal and myself to whatever countermeasure the sysops deem fit. I just think that, if people make a decision like this, they should be allowed to know all of their options. Rest assured: Once this proposal resolves or is removed, I will drop the issue. -- {{User|Gabumon}}
 
[http://www.marioboards.com/index.php?topic=38109.msg1906909#msg1906909 #2 is officially kill]. --[[User:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]] ([[User talk:Glowsquid|talk]]) 19:37, 1 February 2017 (EST)
:Welp, nevermind then. Time to blow this up. -- {{User|Gabumon}}


==Miscellaneous==
==Miscellaneous==
''None at the moment.''
''None at the moment.''

Revision as of 20:51, February 1, 2017

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Sunday, June 9th, 12:19 GMT
Proposals can be new features (such as an extension), the removal of previously-added features that have tired out, or new policies that must be approved via consensus before any action is taken.
  • "Vote" periods last for one week.
  • Any user can support or oppose, but must have a strong reason for doing so (not, e.g., "I like this idea!").
  • All proposals must be approved by a majority of voters, including proposals with more than two options.
  • For past proposals, see the proposal archive and the talk page proposal archive.

A proposal section works like a discussion page: comments are brought up and replied to using indents (colons, such as : or ::::) and all edits are signed using the code {{User|User name}}.

How to

Rules

  1. If users have an idea about improving the wiki or managing its community, but feel that they need community approval before acting upon that idea, they may make a proposal about it. They must have a strong argument supporting their idea and be willing to discuss it in detail with the other users, who will then vote about whether or not they think the idea should be used. Proposals should include links to all relevant pages and writing guidelines. Proposals must include a link to the draft page. Any pages that would be largely affected by the proposal should be marked with {{proposal notice}}.
  2. Only registered, autoconfirmed users can create, comment in, or vote on proposals and talk page proposals. Users may vote for more than one option, but they may not vote for every option available.
  3. Proposals end at the end of the day (23:59) one week after voting starts, except for writing guidelines and talk page proposals, which run for two weeks (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, the voting starts immediately and the deadline is one week later on Monday, August 8, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. Every vote should have a strong, sensible reason accompanying it. Agreeing with a previously mentioned reason given by another user is accepted (including "per" votes), but tangential comments, heavy sarcasm, and other misleading or irrelevant quips are just as invalid as providing no reason at all.
  5. Users who feel that certain votes were cast in bad faith or which truly have no merit can address the votes in the comments section. Users can ask a voter to clarify their position, point out mistakes or flaws in their arguments, or call for the outright removal of the vote if it lacks sufficient reasoning. Users may not remove or alter the content of anyone else's votes. Voters can remove or rewrite their own vote at any time, but the final decision to remove another user's vote lies solely with the administrators.
    • Users can also use the comments section to bring up any concerns or mistakes in regards to the proposal itself. In such cases, it's important the proposer addresses any concerns raised as soon as possible. Even if the supporting side might be winning by a wide margin, that should be no reason for such questions to be left unanswered. They may point out any missing details that might have been overlooked by the proposer, so it's a good idea as the proposer to check them frequently to achieve the most accurate outcome possible.
  6. If a user makes a vote and is subsequently blocked for any amount of time, their vote is removed. However, if the block ends before the proposal ends, then the user in question holds the right to re-cast their vote. If a proposer is blocked, their vote is removed and "(banned)" is added next to their name in the "Proposer:" line of the proposal, which runs until its deadline as normal. If the proposal passes, it falls to the supporters of the idea to enact any changes in a timely manner.
  7. No proposal can overturn the decision of a previous proposal that is less than 4 weeks (28 days) old.
  8. Any proposal where none of the options have at least four votes will be extended for another week. If after three extensions, no options have at least four votes, the proposal will be listed as "NO QUORUM." The original proposer then has the option to relist said proposal to generate more discussion.
  9. All proposals that end up in a tie will be extended for another week. Proposals with more than two options must also be extended another week if any single option does not have a majority support: i.e. more than half of the total number of voters must appear in a single voting option, rather than one option simply having more votes than the other options.
  10. If a proposal with only two voting options has more than ten votes, it can only pass or fail with a margin of at least three votes, otherwise the deadline will be extended for another week as if no majority was reached at all.
  11. Proposals can only be extended up to three times. If a consensus has not been reached by the fourth deadline, the proposal fails and can only be re-proposed after four weeks, at the earliest.
  12. All proposals are archived. The original proposer must take action accordingly if the outcome of the proposal dictates it. If it requires the help of an administrator, the proposer can ask for that help.
  13. If the administrators deem a proposal unnecessary or potentially detrimental to the upkeep of the Super Mario Wiki, they have the right to remove it at any time.
  14. Proposals can only be rewritten or deleted by their proposer within the first three days of their creation (six days for talk page proposals). However, proposers can request that their proposal be deleted by an administrator at any time, provided they have a valid reason for it. Please note that canceled proposals must also be archived.
  15. Unless there is major disagreement about whether certain content should be included, there should not be proposals about creating, expanding, rewriting or otherwise fixing up pages. To organize efforts about improving articles on neglected or completely missing subjects, try setting up a collaboration thread on the forums.
  16. Proposals cannot be made about promotions and demotions. Users can only be promoted and demoted by the will of the administration.
  17. No joke proposals. Proposals are serious wiki matters and should be handled professionally. Joke proposals will be deleted on sight.
  18. Proposals must have a status quo option (e.g. Oppose, Do nothing) unless the status quo itself violates policy.

Basic proposal and support/oppose format

This is an example of what your proposal must look like, if you want it to be acknowledged. If you are inexperienced or unsure how to set up this format, simply copy the following and paste it into the fitting section. Then replace the [subject] - variables with information to customize your proposal, so it says what you wish. If you insert the information, be sure to replace the whole variable including the squared brackets, so "[insert info here]" becomes "This is the inserted information", not "[This is the inserted information]". Proposals presenting multiple alternative courses of action can have more than two voting options, but what each voting section is supporting must be clearly defined. Such options should also be kept to a minimum, and if something comes up in the comments, the proposal can be amended as necessary.

===[insert a title for your proposal here]===
[describe what issue this proposal is about and what changes you think should be made to improve how the wiki handles that issue]

'''Proposer''': {{User|[enter your username here]}}<br>
'''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "June 9, 2024, 23:59 GMT"]

====Support====
#{{User|[enter your username here]}} [make a statement indicating that you support your proposal]

====Oppose====

====Comments====

Users will now be able to vote on your proposal, until the set deadline is reached. Remember, you are a user as well, so you can vote on your own proposal just like the others.

To support, or oppose, just insert "#{{User|[add your username here]}}" at the bottom of the section of your choice. Just don't forget to add a valid reason for your vote behind that tag if you are voting on another user's proposal. If you are voting on your own proposal, you can just say "Per my proposal".

Talk page proposals

All proposals dealing with a single article or a specific group of articles are held on the talk page of one of the articles in question. Proposals dealing with massive amounts of splits, merges or deletions across the wiki should still be held on this page.

For a list of all settled talk page proposals, see MarioWiki:Proposals/TPP archive and Category:Settled talk page proposals.

Rules

  1. All active talk page proposals must be listed below in chronological order (new proposals go at the bottom) using {{TPP discuss}}. Include a brief description of the proposal while also mentioning any pages affected by it, a link to the talk page housing the discussion, and the deadline. If the proposal involves a page that is not yet made, use {{fake link}} to communicate its title in the description. Linking to pages not directly involved in the talk page proposal is not recommended, as it clutters the list with unnecessary links. Place {{TPP}} under the section's header, and once the proposal is over, replace the template with {{settled TPP}}.
  2. All rules for talk page proposals are the same as mainspace proposals (see the "How to" section above), with the exceptions made by Rules 3 and 4 as follows:
  3. Voting in talk page proposals will be open for two weeks, not one (all times GMT).
    • For example, if a proposal is added at any time on Monday, August 1, 2011, it ends two weeks later on Monday, August 15, 2011, at 23:59 GMT.
  4. The talk page proposal must pertain to the article it is posted on.
  5. When a talk page proposal passes, it should be removed from this list and included in the list under the "Unimplemented proposals" section until the proposed changes have been enacted.

List of ongoing talk page proposals

Unimplemented proposals

Proposals

Split Mario Kart Tour character variants into list articles, Tails777 (ended May 4, 2022)
Establish a standard for long course listings in articles for characters/enemies/items/etc., Koopa con Carne (ended June 8, 2023)
Add tabbers to race/battle course articles, GuntherBB (ended November 18, 2023)
Merge Super Mario Bros. (film) subjects with their game counterparts, JanMisali (ended April 18, 2024)
Remove profiles and certain other content related to the Super Mario Bros. Encyclopedia from the wiki, Koopa con Carne (ended April 30, 2024)
Break alphabetical order in enemy lists to list enemy variants below their base form, EvieMaybe (ended May 21, 2024)
Consider "humorous" and other related terms as frequently misused in MarioWiki:Good writing, DrippingYellow (ended May 26, 2024)
  • ^Note: Requires action from admins.

Talk page proposals

Split all the clothing, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 12, 2021)
Split machine parts, Robo-Rabbit, and flag from Super Duel Mode, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended September 30, 2022)
Add product IDs in game infoboxes, Windy (ended March 18, 2023)
Convert the lists of episode appearances for television series characters into categories, Camwoodstock (ended November 22, 2023)
Make bestiary list pages for the Minion Quest and Bowser Jr.'s Journey modes, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended January 11, 2024)
Split Mario's Time Machine (Nintendo Entertainment System), or the Super Nintendo Entertainment version along with both console versions of Mario is Missing!, LinkTheLefty (ended April 11, 2024)
Remove non-Super Mario content from Super Smash Bros. series challenges articles, BMfan08 (ended May 3, 2024)
Split Cheep Blimp (Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door) and Zeeppelin from the blimp page, Doc von Schmeltwick (ended May 28, 2024)

List of talk page proposals

Writing guidelines

None at the moment.

New features

None at the moment.

Removals

None at the moment.

Changes

None at the moment.

Miscellaneous

None at the moment.

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